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Going back to a more division focused schedule would help the Rays. More games vs the Yankees and Red Sox would increase attendance
One thing to consider – Miami is actually the most expensive metro area in the USA when you factor in average salaries. Maybe people in Miami just don’t have enough disposable income to support an MLB team.
The Rays had the unfortunate luck of being formed in the 90s.
That was when the Yankees and Braves both became the hottest teams in baseball, and the Red Sox shortly after.
Manybbaseball fans in Florida are northerners that moved south and kept their allegiances to their home teams.
The Braves owned the southeast due to being in Atlanta and also being broadcast on TBS.
Had the Rays been formed in the 80s when the Yankees and Braves we not good they probably would have been more successful in building a loyal fan base.
Baseball is THRIVING, we have the BEST Spring Training League in Baseball! We can in a single day fill EVERY Single Spring Training Park at the SAME TIME!
As for the teams 1. BAD Stadium Locations 2. HORRIBLE /NO Player RETENTION 3. Horrible Ownership that makes people like me wanna boycott then. 4. We have other things to do, and watching it from tv from a boat or elsewhere is just as good
Floridians lack the patience and critical thinking skills that come with being a true baseball fan. ❤
It’s not rocket science. Move the Rays and Marlins to Nashville and Salt Lake city and don’t expand
With the Marlins, IMO, constant bad ownership. When a team wins two World Series, and has fire sales after them, it builds distrust with fans.
For the Rays, I’m not sure what would fix their attendance issues. First the excuse was traffic made it hard to attend games in St. Pete, as though other markets don’t have teaffic issues. Then the excuse of the Trop being a dump, and a new stadium would fix attendance, as though the proposal wasn’t in St. Pete, and the traffic issue wouldn’t still affect attendance.
How do the Brewers make the MLB playoffs 6 out of 7 years while also supporting the Packers(historic) and the Bucks(recent NBA champs) in such a small-market state like Wisconsin?! Apparently, a lot of money supports this. Weird.
Marlins and Rays are both at the bottom of the MLB payroll. Why should the fans care when the Ownership refuses to spend money to get better?
Wisconsin needs an NHL team!
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Both Florida teams are just gonna fold forever.
Florida has the greatest income split population. Wealthy northern transplant go to hockey but don’t watch on TV. Baseball needs lower middle class fans to fill the seats for 81 games. The working class in Florida is is struggling.
average salary range of $94,000 to $100,000 to live comfortably.Mar 29, 2024
The median income for Tampa Bay is only 74,000 with more than 40% make less than 42,000
the amount of money people have to spend matters. trying to fill a stadium 81 times a year is a different deal than 8/9 for a football team.
Paul Lo Duca’s dad was also very bitter about the Dodgers’ departure from Brooklyn.
I found that playing baseball indoors seems very unnatural and the outdoors is really an important part of the sport. MLB is probably in Florida because of money, not because there are fans there. St. Pete has one of the largest collections of Dali. Why? (insert pause here….) Is Tampa/St. Pete have a huge art following? No, someone had a lot of money and now there’s a museum. I never felt like professional sports do well in the South. In the fall, the sports bar crowd on a Saturday is significantly busier than on a Sunday.
Well, its easy to BLAME ownership…but I fault the localities for “forcing” teams in places where they really don’t belong. Early ownership in Florida for both the Marlins & Rays were marked by uncertainty. While the Marlins DID win WS titles in ’97 & ’03, those titles were bookended by slashed salaries, ownership changes and prolly the ballpark maybe not the worst, but arguably in the bottom 5. Traditional baseball fans saw Florida as a spring training destination ONLY and i think for most of us that still exists. MLB should have NEVER granted “Tampa” a franchise without a ballpark in Tampa , and St. Pete had a ballpark that was touted as a “temporary” solution that has now approached 30 years? When an “act of God” decimates your ballpark, you NEED to listen. St. Pete doesn’t have the money, the Fed won’t subsidize with FEMA grants either in the soon to be passed BBB. So St. Pete is “in a hole” and Tampa cant finance a MLB team after the Bucs assistance, along with the lack of locations. Yeah, these naysayers who respond saying “here’s a place, there’s a place” don’t understand these areas have ALREADY been committed and are NOT available. OR, they would have been investigated already. Despite the “neg window” for the sale of the Rays, this was ONLY to buy time, to FORCE St.Pete’s hand, to either pony up the $$$ OR seek an exit, and that exit gives the Rays the ability to MOVE to Orlando, a MUCH BETTER option and opportunity than either Miami or St. Pete/Tampa could offer MLB. John Morgan, despite his bombasticism, is 100% correct. Orlando is the BEST option.